A Proposal to Eliminate the Lord’s Prayer from AA Meetings

This is an excerpt of a document that was written on an Olympia manual typewriter and circulated by John L in New York City in 1976. There is nothing at all in this work that does not apply today.

By John L.

All too many AA meetings end with a group recitation of the “Lord’s Prayer” (also known as the “Our Father”), a prayer peculiar to the Christian religion. This practice is wrong — contrary to the spirit of AA unity, and in obvious violation of the Third Tradition and the AA Preamble.

AA members can believe in anything they wish, including the fables of the Christian religion, but they have no right to exclude freethinkers from full membership in the AA fellowship. And we atheists and agnostics are not the only ones involved. There are also Jews, Moslems, Buddhists, Hindus, and many others who are recovering alcoholics.

The AA Preamble

The AA Preamble states: “AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution.” This is clear enough. If anyone claims that the habitual recitation of the so-called Lord’s Prayer does not violate the AA Preamble, then he has the obligation to explain what the Preamble secretly means, as opposed to what it so clearly says.

The Third Tradition

The Third Tradition says: “The only requirement for AA membership is a desire to stop drinking.” It does not say, “first-class membership for Christians, second-class membership for everyone else.” It is true that no one is “forced” to say the “Lord’s Prayer”. The fact remains that someone who is not a Christian is forced into either dishonestly saying something he doesn’t believe, or feeling left out as everyone else in the room participates in a Christian prayer ritual. This is unfair and unnecessary.

The Honesty Part of the Program

Many AA members are not Christians, and their sobriety compares favorably with that of the Christian religionists. Nevertheless, the pressure towards conformity is sufficiently great that most of these non-Christian members stand up during the “Lord’s Prayer” (though many of them don’t say anything, or just mumble, or keep their eyes open). They are afraid of “standing out,” and probably — with reason — of being ostracized.

No one’s sobriety is helped if he is forced to pretend to be something he’s not, forced to say something he doesn’t believe, and forced to do something he believes is wrong. AA should encourage honesty, not hypocrisy.

But Isn’t It Traditional?

Reciting the “Lord’s Prayer” after meetings is indeed a habit, and if it is a bad habit, then it ought to be broken. Every sober AA member has broken a dangerous and insidious habit, and it should not be too hard to stay away from the “Lord’s Prayer,” one meeting at a time.

What Makes AA Work?

Probably all sober alcoholics would agree that a requirement for sobriety is not picking up the first drink. Aside from that, alcoholics would give a variety of answers, for AA is an individual program.

I would say that for me, AA consists of the realization that I am powerless over alcohol; that total abstinence is required on a 24-hour basis; that alcoholics can provide practical help and moral support for each other; that life is worth living and things can get better; that honesty is the basis for lasting sobriety; and so on.

There is no evidence that religious belief is necessary for good sobriety. Thousands of alcoholics have stayed sober and helped others to sobriety without having the slightest belief in the supernatural, let alone the Christian version. In the Scandinavian countries, the steps have been reduced to seven, eliminating all references to “God”, and AA seems to work just fine without “Him.”

What Harm Does It Do?

The “Lord’s Prayer” recitation is offensive to non-Christians. It makes it harder for us to feel comfortable in the AA fellowship and it undoubtedly prevents many non-Christian alcoholics from coming to AA in the first place. Who knows how many thousands of alcoholics never made AA because they were afraid it was a religious organization. And their fears will hardly be dispelled when they hear a Christian Prayer at their first meeting.

What If The Group Conscience Wants The Lord’s Prayer?

If so, then the group should officially designate itself a Christian group, whose meetings would be terminated with a Christian prayer. It would be a special purpose group, and should be so listed in the meeting book. Just as there are special purpose groups for young people, or men, or women, or gay people, this would be a special group for Christians.

If a group is open to all who have a desire to stop drinking, then its meetings should not feature a sectarian religious practice that excludes those who are not Christian religionists.


The “Lord’s Prayer” should no longer be recited at the end of AA meetings.

3 Responses

  1. Robin R. says:

    I agree 100%. I have been among the ones who join the hand held circle and remained silent during the prayer. More and more lately, I feel like a hypocrite doing this and have serious concerns for the newcomer who may perceive that this is a religious program and may not come back. I think that I will decline to participate in this ritual to at least let that newcomer know that it is okay to abstain.

  2. Mike S. says:

    I am one who became uncomfortable to the point I no longer attend meetings; quite frankly I got to a point I no longer felt welcome. Being agnostic and willing to believe one thing however I am not willing to feel my truths are not worthy of AA…..I am tired of being viewed as one of those lost souls that will one day see the AA light. Even I am very comfortable in my beliefs who am I to say there is or there is not a God? On the other hand, who is AA to tell me my beliefs are not within their beliefs? AA is a wonderful fellowship and some day I hope they will recognize their need to be as accepting of atheists and agnostics as they ask us to be about what we don’t believe. I do not feel that I am right or that I am wrong… I am simply following my beliefs and I am unwilling to be the odd man out. Thanks to those of you that support the broader cause of living spiritually without alcohol.

  3. Brenda says:

    Why are AA groups allowed to even use a Christian prayer at meetings? I totally agree with John L.. and I know people who wouldn’t go to meetings because of the “religious” thing.. I also feel that Bill W. was a hard core Christian when he wrote the big book and some of the book contradicts itself on the no religion thing. Even the word “God” refers to a deity, which is religious.

    I myself have stopped going to meetings because of shit like this, along with sexist language and refusal to update the book to the 21st century. 🙂

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