Relevant Quotes for Secular AA

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The wording was, of course, quite optional so long as we expressed the idea, voicing it without reservation.

Alcoholics Anonymous, Page 63, 1939

Our book is meant to be suggestive only. We realize we know only a little.

Alcoholics Anonymous, Page 164, 1939

The spiritual life is by no means a Christian monopoly… Consider the eight-part program laid down in Buddhism: Right view, right aim, right speech, right action, right living, right effort, right mindedness and right contemplation. The Buddhist philosophy, as exemplified by these eight points, could be literally adopted by AA as a substitute for or in addition to the Twelve Steps. Generosity, universal love and welfare of others rather than considerations of self are basic to Buddhism.

Akron Pamphlet, “Spiritual Milestones in Alcoholics Anonymous”, edited by Dr. Bob, 1940

It must never be forgotten that the purpose of Alcoholics Anonymous is to sober up alcoholics. There is no religious or spiritual requirement for membership. No demands are made on anyone. An experience is offered which members may accept or reject. That is up to them.

Letter to Father Marcus O’Brien, written in 1943, and quoted in The Soul of Sponsorship by Robert Fitzgerald

Our membership ought to include all who suffer from alcoholism. Hence we may refuse none who wish to recover. Nor ought AA membership ever depend on money or conformity. Any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an AA group, provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation.

Third Tradition, Long Form, 1946

So long as there is the slightest interest in sobriety, the most unmoral, the most anti-social, the most critical alcoholic may gather about him a few kindred spirits and announce to us that a new Alcoholics Anonymous Group has been formed. Anti-God, anti-medicine, anti-our Recovery Program, even anti-each other — these rampant individuals are still an AA Group if they think so!

Bill Wilson, Grapevine Article, “Anarchy Melts”, 1946

Our AA door stands wide open, (We) sign nothing, agree to nothing, and promise nothing. We demand nothing. (We) join on our own say-so… We do not wish to deny anyone the chance to recover from alcoholism.

Bill Wilson Letter, 1946

We have, in AA, no coercive human authority. Because each AA, of necessity, has a sensitive and responsive conscience, and because alcohol will discipline him severely if he backslides, we are finding we have little need for manmade rules or regulations.

Bill Wilson, Language of the Heart, 1948

While AA has restored thousands of poor Christians to their churches, and has made believers out of atheists and agnostics, it has also made good AA’s out of those belonging to the Buddhist, Islamic, and Jewish faiths. For example, we question very much whether our Buddhist members in Japan would ever have joined this Society had AA officially stamped itself a strictly Christian movement.

You can easily convince yourself of this by imagining that AA started among the Buddhists and that they told you you couldn’t join them unless you became a Buddhist, too. If you were a Christian alcoholic under those circumstances, you might well turn your face to the wall and die.

Letter, 1954
Page 34, As Bill Sees It, The AA Way of Life

To some of us, the idea of substituting ‘good’ for ‘God’ in the Twelve Steps will seem like a watering down of AA’s message. We must remember that AA’s Steps are suggestions only. A belief in them as they stand is not at all a requirement for membership among us. This liberty has made AA available to thousands who never would have tried at all, had we insisted on the Twelve Steps just as written.

Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, Page 81, 1957

In Step Two we decided to describe God as a “Power greater than ourselves.” In Steps Three and Eleven we inserted the words “God as we understood Him.” From Step Seven we deleted the expression “on our knees.” And, as a lead-in sentence to all the steps we wrote these words: “Here are the steps we took which are suggested as a Program of Recovery.” AA’s Twelve Steps were to be suggestions only.

Such were the final concessions to those of little of no faith; this was the great contribution of our atheists and agnostics. They had widened our gateway so that all who suffer may pass through, regardless of their belief or lack of belief.”

Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, Page 167, 1957

Speaking for Dr. Bob and myself I would like to say that there has never been the slightest intent, on his part or mine, to trying to found a new religious denomination. Dr. Bob held certain religious convictions and so do I. This is, of course, the personal privilege of every AA member.

Nothing, however, could be so unfortunate for AA’s future as an attempt to incorporate any of our personal theological views into AA teaching, practice or tradition. Were Dr. Bob still with us, I am positive he would agree that we could never be too emphatic about this matter.

Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, Footnote, Page 232, 1957

As time passes our book literature has a tendency to get more and more frozen – a tendency for conversion into something like dogma. This is a trait of human nature which I am afraid we can do little about.

Bill Wilson Letter, 1961

In AA’s first years I all but ruined the whole undertaking… God as I understood Him had to be for everybody. Sometimes my aggression was subtle and sometimes it was crude. But either way it was damaging – perhaps fatally so – to numbers of non-believers.

Bill Wilson, Grapevine Article, “The Dilemma of No Faith”, 1961

I am responsible. When anyone, anywhere, reaches out for help, I want the hand of AA always to be there; and for that I am responsible.

AA International Conference, 1965

Our very first concern should be with those sufferers that we are still unable to reach… Newcomers are approaching us at the rate of tens of thousands yearly. They represent almost every belief and attitude imaginable. We have atheists and agnostics. We have people of nearly every race, culture and religion… How much and how often did we fail them?

Bill Wilson, General Service Conference, 1965

In AA we are supposed to be bound together in the kinship of a universal suffering. Therefore the full liberty to practice any creed or principle or therapy should be a first consideration. Hence let us not pressure anyone with individual or even collective views. Let us instead accord to each other the respect that is due to every human being as he tries to make his way towards the light. Let us always try to be inclusive rather than exclusive. Let us remember that each alcoholic among us is a member of AA, so long as he or she so declares.

Bill Wilson, General Service Conference, 1965

Simply because we have convictions that work very well for us, it becomes quite easy to assume that we have all of the truth. Whenever this brand of arrogance develops we are sure to become aggressive. We demand agreement with us. We play God. This isn’t good dogma. This is very bad dogma. It could be especially destructive for us of AA to indulge in this sort of thing.

Bill Wilson, General Service Conference, 1965

All people must necessarily rally to the call of their own particular convictions and we of AA are no exception. All people should have the right to voice their convictions.

Bill Wilson, General Service Conference, 1965

There were agnostics in the Tuesday night Group, and several hardcore atheists who objected to any mention of God. On many evenings Bill had to remember his first meeting with Ebby. He’d been told to ask for help from anything he believed in. These men, he could see, believed in each other and in the strength of the group. At some time each of them had been totally unable to stop drinking on his own, yet when two of them had worked at it together, somehow they had become more powerful and they had finally been able to stop. This, then — whatever it was that occurred between them — was what they could accept as a power greater than themselves.

Bill W., by William Thomsen, Page 230, Published in 1975

We had to become much more inclusive and never, if possible, exclusive. We can never say to anyone (or insinuate) that he must agree with our formula or be excommunicated. The Atheist may stand up in an AA meeting denying God, yet reporting how he has been helped in other ways… we make no religious requirement of anyone. All people having an alcohol problem who wish to get rid of it and make a happy adjustment with the circumstances of their lives, become AA members by simply associating with us. Nothing but sincerity is asked of anyone. In this atmosphere, the orthodox, the unorthodox, and the unbeliever mix happily and usefully together, and in nearly every case great spiritual growth ensues.

Pass It On, Pages 172-3, Quoting Bill Wilson regarding the split from the Oxford Group, 1984

I’ve become aware that 12-step programs are home to people from every religion, denomination, sect, cult, political tilt, gender identity, sexual preference, economic strata, racial and ethnic background, believers in gun rights and abortion rights and the right to home schooling, drinkers of coffee and tea, whiskey and mouthwash, people who sleep on their sides or their stomachs or sidewalks.

Marya Hornbacher, Waiting: A Nonbeliever’s Higher Power, 2011

My bold prediction is that if AA doesn’t accommodate change and diversify, our 100th anniversary will be a fellowship of men and women with the same stature and relevance as the Mennonites; charming, harmless and irrelevant.

Joe C., quoted in “The ‘Don’t Tell’ Policy in AA”, January, 2012

Whenever, wherever, one alcoholic meets another alcoholic and sees in that person first and foremost not that he or she is male or female, or black or white, or Christian, Buddhist, Jew, or Atheist, or gay or straight, or whatever, but sees… that he or she is alcoholic and that therefore both of them need each other – there will be not only an Alcoholics Anonymous, but there will be the Alcoholics Anonymous that you and I love so much and respect so deeply.

Ernest Kurtz, published in Not-God, Page 305, and adapted by Ernie in January, 013

Spirituality is something everyone has. We wake up with it in the morning. It is love and hate, anger and joy; we are spiritual beings because we are affected if people love us or hate us or ignore us. In a spiritual program we have no creed or specific theology or rituals. Now there are some rituals in AA and I think we have to be careful about these. In the South they almost always end meetings with the Lord’s Prayer but when they did that at the world conference in San Antonio in 2010, I was surprised and frankly I was a little shocked. Again, I consider myself reasonably religious and I want you to be religious but don’t try to make AA religious. The line between religion and spirituality has to be maintained strongly in this fellowship.

Rev. Ward Ewing, Former GSO Chair, Rebellion Dogs Publishing Podcast, 2013

AA has always been evolving; it is always in a state of becoming. Hopefully AA shall never become rigidly dogmatic, but shall always be imbued with love and tolerance, so as to ensure everyone is included.

Phyllis H., GSO General Manager, WAAFT International AA Conference, 2014


This list was compiled by Thomas B. If you have any quotes supporting secular AA that you think should be added, please contact Thomas via email at ltbrin@earthlink.net. And please share this with others within the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous.


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Relevant Quotes for Secular AA — 13 Comments

  1. Finally! I am an agnostic who did the Program many years ago as a zealot (mostly because I believed I had to believe – The Chapter to the Agnostic). It did not ultimately work well for me. After several more years of drinking I stopped, seven months ago. I have been the happiest in my life these past months, working with an excellent therapist, and free of religion.

    I am a social worker and recently began taking a client to meetings – AA does work for many people and when you’re homeless it’s your best shot. I feel both at home and alien in meetings. I do my part, reading the Preamble, joining in the Serenity Prayer, but can only recall the hostility I was met with a while back when it became evident that I hadn’t done the Second and Third Steps.

    I want the fellowship but cannot fully engage because I find the Steps mostly gobbledygook anymore. I came upon your page quite by accident and was happily surprised. Would it were that there was an agnostic/atheist group in my town.

    • If there isn’t an agnostic meeting yet in your town, maybe that can be changed. Click on the image below, complete the form, and we will take it from there, Jim. Best wishes.

      New Group

  2. As an atheist Buddhist, I was tickled to see the mention of the eightfold path in the Akron pamphlet. I wonder if they knew old-school Buddhism doesn’t have deities.

  3. Great stuff. Thanks Thomas. I have been saving quotes posted on our websites for a while and already had some of them. Sadly, I consider it ammunition for the traditional meetings I must attend. I am amazed how few AA’s are aware of Bill’s later writings that support non-believers in AA. It seems that only the BB is ‘devinely inspired’.
    “In AA’s first years I all but ruined the whole undertaking… God as I understood Him had to be for everybody. Sometimes my aggression was subtle and sometimes it was crude. But either way it was damaging – perhaps fatally so – to numbers of non-believers.” (Bill W, AA Grapevine, April 1961, ‘Dellimma of No Faith’)

  4. Thanks to Thomas for compiling this, Chris for submitting it, and Roger for publishing it. I think such a collection of AA material, plus Roger’s excellent recent history of secularism within AA, could be very useful, especially for folks starting new meetings and perhaps encountering opposition.

  5. Excellent list,
    Just wondering how to use it. If it is a list to beat fundamentalists over the head with, which I will gladly waste my time on any day, then probably even Ernie doesn’t cut it, he’s not in the canon, and neither does william thomson, whoever he is, or marya hornbacher. Aside from that of course it is good stuff.
    Ewing and Phyllis will probably pass as somewhat proper authorities, semi-canonized.
    It would be a good thing indeed if we had a complete list of canonized, and semi-canonized material, maybe in one handy pamphlet? – this is a good start.

  6. Thanx, Thomas. This is very useful! We’ll have a copy sitting on our Literature table for our Freethinkers Living Sober meetings.

  7. “We realize we know only a little.” this is THE most ignored quote from the BB. The “fundamentalists” see the BB as a Bible….as the final word on alcoholism. And anytime science makes a breakthrough in the understanding of this disease–these folks scoff at it! “there is no cure!”
    I find it sad and small-minded that so many AA folks have canonized Bill W. The BB is out-dated in many ways. Our comprehension of addiction is 1,000 times greater now than when the BB was written!
    One glaring example of this is the total ommission of Rehab facilities, and how much they play a part in recovery TODAY! but there are many others as well.
    The BB–certainly a landmark and vital book–is NOT the final word on addiction to alcohol. and Bill W. knew this when he wrote “we know but little…”

    • Our comprehension of addiction has increased but the majority of people in the world still get sober through AA. I keep hearing there are many other ways to get sober and I have an open mind and am willing at any time to hear, go, observe those ways but none yet. The rehab centres as far as I can see get people ready to come to AA where they find their solution to their problem. Cheers Daniel

      • “…the majority of people in the world still get sober through AA…”
        AA has roughly 2.1 million members (the last triennial survey says 5% loss of membership, but that will be ignored).
        Assuming by “majority” you mean a minimum of 51%, that means there are only around 4 million alcoholics in the world. Really? That few?

        AA is listed as #38 on this list* (URL below) of “What Works” treatments for alcoholism.

        Are you saying “the majority of people” are ignoring the other, more effective treatments?

        In the U.S., “Under Obamacare, insurance will only pay for evidence-based treatment. Consequently, rehabs are eliminating 12-step groups in favor of harm reduction and other statistically strong methods.” **

        The U.S. appellate and state courts have deemed AA a religion, hardly “evidence-based treatment,” even at a #38 ranking.

        *http://www.behaviortherapy.com/researchdiv/whatworks.aspx

        **https://www.thefix.com/content/how-obamacare-killing-aa’s-membership

        “The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it.”
        -Neil deGrasse Tyson

  8. Just an observation that I read somewhere years ago.Jews seem to have the lowest rate of alcoholism of any group. And American Indians the highest. When you look at how long any group has had access to distilled alcohol, it lies along a continuum very neatly. Those with the longest access have the lowest rates, while native Americans have had it only maybe 400 yrs. Alcoholism over times creates a lower population as there are fewer births, and those don’t survive as well

    • Alcohol has been available to North American First Nations, as long as if not, longer than the Jews. It is a fallacy that White settlers exposed First Nations to alcohol. I recall from my limited learning that Jews do have a smaller alcohol dependency than other populations. As for the First Nations destruction of their societies and culture appear to have caused an escalated dependency rate.